Comments on: What’s on my mind? Really? http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/ A blog for Mara Collins Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:37:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: unreliable narrator http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17962 unreliable narrator Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:07:50 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17962 PS I miss you ALL. We need a Dallas or Portland or Chicago private blogger conference, dangnabbit! PS I miss you ALL. We need a Dallas or Portland or Chicago private blogger conference, dangnabbit!

]]> By: unreliable narrator http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17961 unreliable narrator Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:06:04 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17961 And yet accountants can probably hate with the best of 'em. It's just that humanities professors and bloggers have more time on their/our hands, and hate with greater verbal facility! Such an accomplishment. "Don't need no hateration / holleration / in this dancerie" [Mary J. Blige, no doubt misquoted/misspelled—] There's a story about that Wyatt Mason piece that I should tell you sometime, if we EVER speak in PERSON once agane. Now back to the endless terrible papers— And yet accountants can probably hate with the best of ‘em. It’s just that humanities professors and bloggers have more time on their/our hands, and hate with greater verbal facility! Such an accomplishment. “Don’t need no hateration / holleration / in this dancerie” [Mary J. Blige, no doubt misquoted/misspelled—]

There’s a story about that Wyatt Mason piece that I should tell you sometime, if we EVER speak in PERSON once agane. Now back to the endless terrible papers—

]]> By: Mara Collins http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17925 Mara Collins Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:24:47 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17925 Jenny, I think I have missed this too, but not as much as I have missed you. Spent the whole weekend regretting that I wasn't in Texas. Un, I stumbled into this one so innocently, I swear. And then discover there are entire blogs dedicated to hating James Wood. Seriously, the Wallace he excerpted was a little painful to read, taken from the story "The Suffering Channel," it did a lovely job of illustrating the point Wood was making about the three languages that can exist between author voice, character's voice and the language of the world, and -- maybe because I have experienced plenty of delight with Wallace, I didn't take it as representative, only that it was masterful in doing exactly what he wanted it to do. The Mason is my favorite of those links, by far, and does give some context for Wood misreading Wallace, so thank you. Still? All the hating? Makes me scared of English departments and list-serves and blogs with much more readership than this one. Which reinforces a lot of the crap I get from the little voices in my head when I am alone out in the studio struggling. Like maybe I should be pursuing accounting. Jenny, I think I have missed this too, but not as much as I have missed you. Spent the whole weekend regretting that I wasn’t in Texas.

Un, I stumbled into this one so innocently, I swear. And then discover there are entire blogs dedicated to hating James Wood.

Seriously, the Wallace he excerpted was a little painful to read, taken from the story “The Suffering Channel,” it did a lovely job of illustrating the point Wood was making about the three languages that can exist between author voice, character’s voice and the language of the world, and — maybe because I have experienced plenty of delight with Wallace, I didn’t take it as representative, only that it was masterful in doing exactly what he wanted it to do.

The Mason is my favorite of those links, by far, and does give some context for Wood misreading Wallace, so thank you.

Still? All the hating? Makes me scared of English departments and list-serves and blogs with much more readership than this one. Which reinforces a lot of the crap I get from the little voices in my head when I am alone out in the studio struggling. Like maybe I should be pursuing accounting.

]]> By: jenny http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17904 jenny Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:08:43 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17904 all I can think to say is bless you! My God I have missed this, and <em>you</em>. Oh my God do I miss you. all I can think to say is bless you! My God I have missed this, and you. Oh my God do I miss you.

]]> By: unreliable narrator http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17896 unreliable narrator Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:08:18 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17896 1. Excerpt from the Wood piece: http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/the-case-against-david-foster-wallace/ 2. And reviewer Walter Kirn agrees with the popular conception that Wood makes Wallace an "aesthetic villain": http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/books/review/Kirn-t.html?_r=1 3. Then there's the sharper (I think) reader Wyatt Mason, who takes on Wood's negative assessment of <i>Oblivion</i>: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n22/maso02_.html 4. And finally, Wood's tepid retraction, or rather his insisting he wasn't ever being dismissive in the first place: http://www.observer.com/2008/media/james-wood-david-foster-wallace Because? "DOING IT FOR THE META" = t-shirt #1,372. I love you guys. PS it would not surprise me a bit if that geezer <i>were</i> haunting you. He'd love you for absorbedly reading amongst the coats and backpacks, for example. 1. Excerpt from the Wood piece:

http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/the-case-against-david-foster-wallace/

2. And reviewer Walter Kirn agrees with the popular conception that Wood makes Wallace an “aesthetic villain”:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/books/review/Kirn-t.html?_r=1

3. Then there’s the sharper (I think) reader Wyatt Mason, who takes on Wood’s negative assessment of Oblivion:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n22/maso02_.html

4. And finally, Wood’s tepid retraction, or rather his insisting he wasn’t ever being dismissive in the first place:

http://www.observer.com/2008/media/james-wood-david-foster-wallace

Because? “DOING IT FOR THE META” = t-shirt #1,372.

I love you guys.

PS it would not surprise me a bit if that geezer were haunting you. He’d love you for absorbedly reading amongst the coats and backpacks, for example.

]]> By: mara http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17886 mara Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:01:27 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17886 So, Jskah, it is all your fault that Facebook is only giving me "account temporarily unavailable" messages this morning? Or am I supposed to make a sacrifice to Mercury? Or just walk away from the computer? Repat, Wood does cite and use a passage from DFW with -- I thought -- admiration for his style in the first section of the book, I don't know if there will be dissing at some further point, or maybe subtlety of dissing was lost on me. So, Jskah, it is all your fault that Facebook is only giving me “account temporarily unavailable” messages this morning? Or am I supposed to make a sacrifice to Mercury? Or just walk away from the computer?

Repat, Wood does cite and use a passage from DFW with — I thought — admiration for his style in the first section of the book, I don’t know if there will be dissing at some further point, or maybe subtlety of dissing was lost on me.

]]> By: Repat http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17885 Repat Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:27:01 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17885 I want to read Woods' book. Isn't this the one where he disses DFW? Which he later (posthumously) retracts? I was an English major and I even teach English and still I always forget what "free indirect style" means. (I suspect I won't agree with Woods.) Happy half-birthday! I want to read Woods’ book. Isn’t this the one where he disses DFW? Which he later (posthumously) retracts?

I was an English major and I even teach English and still I always forget what “free indirect style” means. (I suspect I won’t agree with Woods.)

Happy half-birthday!

]]> By: jskah (goodreads!) http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/comment-page-1/#comment-17863 jskah (goodreads!) Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:54:29 +0000 http://www.oleoptene.com/2009/09/20/untitled/#comment-17863 WE LIVE IN PUBLIC: a casual internet-friend's blog links to an npr podcast - which discusses a movie - which i then googlesearch - to find a twitter/fb/youtube/flickr/rss/wiki-linking website - which i then post on facebook. GUYS I'M DOIN IT FOR THE META [EVEN BETTER i'm posting this status update on yr BLOG OH MAN] WE LIVE IN PUBLIC: a casual internet-friend’s blog links to an npr podcast – which discusses a movie – which i then googlesearch – to find a twitter/fb/youtube/flickr/rss/wiki-linking website – which i then post on facebook.

GUYS
I’M DOIN IT FOR THE META

[EVEN BETTER i'm posting this status update on yr BLOG OH MAN]

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